Vogue 1558: I finally sewed a Big 4 pattern!!

Vogue 1558 by Rachel Comey Misses' Raglan Sleeve Waist pleated dress

After five years of sewing, I finally sewed my first ever Big 4 pattern: Vogue 1558! It’s a Misses’ Raglan Sleeve, waist-pleated dress. The pattern was a christmas gift from my lovely sister. Isn’t it the best when you get sewing-related gifts?

I’ve had my eye out for the right fabric to sew this pattern ever since seeing these gorgeous versions by Allie Jackson, Jess and Mary. My fabric dilemma was the following. As many people have pointed out, the fabric used on the cover envelope doesn’t do the pattern any justice. The print is so busy that you don’t even notice the gorgeous pleating. All three versions that inspired me had gone with a solid colour which really shows the lovely pleating. But, I still kind of just love prints…

v1558 by Rachel Comey Misses' Raglan Sleeve Waist pleated dress

So when I came across this merino and polyproylene blend from The Fabric Store, I knew it was perfect. At least visually. It was solid enough to show off the pleats but printed enough to satisfy my instinct for prints.

Online Fabric Shopping Dilemmas

This was, however, one of those rare purchases were some of the challenges of online shopping came to the fore.

How do you fabric shop?

Online or in person?

I do both. I especially shop in person if I am travelling. One of my favourite ways to explore a new city is to track down its fabric stores. But, these days, I would say that 80% of my fabric purchases are online.

Most of the time, it goes well. I’m familiar enough with fabrics to  usually know what I am getting. Plus I’ve narrowed my pool of online stores down to those with whom I feel confident with the quality of their fabric. By the way, if you are searching for a great primer on all things fabric, including tips for purchasing online, I can’t recommend highly enough episode 27, “Fabrics 101”, of the Love to Sew Podcast. I am by no means a fabric  newbie, but I learned sooooo much from Helen and Caroline in this one!

So, getting back to this gorgeous fabric. I could see online that it was soooo beautiful, but I didn’t really know what a merino and polyproylene blend would feel like. How heavy would it be? Would it drape? Would it hold pleats?

So I did the most important thing in these situations, I contacted The Fabric Store to ask for more information. I asked whether it might work for vogue 1558.

They kindly got back to me, even though it was Friday evening, but the person who could properly answer my question wouldn’t be around until Monday (perfectly reasonable) but, also, they just wanted to let me know that there was only 4 metres of the fabric left!

At which point I panicked. Nothing like a good fabric pressure-buy panic.

I decided that, based on its description as being a sport knit fabric, it probably wouldn’t work for vogue 1558. But I bought 2 metres of it anyway because, well, just look at it.

When it arrived, it’s definitely thicker than vogue 1558 had in mind, but it was still definitely workable.

But now my 2 metres wasn’t enough, since this pattern has totally ginormous sleeves!! So I was unhappily forced to use a contrasting fabric for sleeve. This is the same crepe scuba I used in my Zadie dress. Now, a contrast sleeve in a raglan is always quite a striking look, but I would have preferred floral all over.

But, oh well, you win some, you lose some.

How do you deal with those situations with online shopping where you are just not sure?

The Fabric Store suggested, perfectly sensibly, that I order a sample. But, let me be honest here. Even though every fabric store suggests this, I have never done it. If I am already ordering something from a store, I might order some samples of other fabrics that interest me in the future at the same time. But I have never found a fabric online that I liked and then ordered a sample, before purchasing. It just takes too long.

I buy online, just like I use PDF patterns, because my sewing habit necessitates a certain sense of instant gratification. The process of slowly waiting for a sample to arrive and then ordering the fabric later, just doesn’t fit in with the way I approach my sewing. Plus, this option was rendered moot in these circumstances by the fact that there was only 4 metres left. By the time my sample would have left New Zealand on the way to Europe, the fabric would have been sold out anyway.

So I definitely prefer to take the occasional risk in fabric buying, rather than wait for samples. How do you do it?

It’s relatively rare that the fabric doesn’t work for the project I had in mind. And even if this happens, it will work for something else, right?

OK, enough about the sometimes challenges of online fabric shopping. Let’s get to the dress!

Big 4 vs Indie Patterns

As an indie pattern aficionado, this was my first ever time sewing a Big 4 pattern. As I have stated elsewhere, it’s not necessarily that I am against the Big 4. It’s just that I learned to sew through indies and, sticking to indies only, I already have a sewing queue that’s more than 12 months long. If I open the door to the world of big 4 patterns too, I feel I would become totally overwhelmed by a hobby which is supposed to be fun.

By the way, what’s your sewing queue time? How long would it take you to sew through everything you currently want to make?

Ease-y does it

First, and most obvious in terms of differences, is that ease is waaaaay different.

I already knew this, but I was amazed by how different it really was. The body measurement chart had me between a 14-16. I decided to sew a 12. The final dress then has about an additional 2 inches taken in around the waist. Frankly, I should have still taken it in another inch. I just didn’t do so because that would have required re-doing my pleats and I just couldn’t face that!

v1558 by Rachel Comey Misses' Raglan Sleeve Waist pleated dress

So the ease level in vogue 1558 is just nutso if you are a child of indie patterns like myself!!!

And the ease issue is made so much harder by the fact that there are no finished garment measurements. No, I lie. There is a finished garment measurement provided, that being the width of the dress at the hem line. Now I’m sorry, but isn’t that basically the most useless finished garment measurement you could imagine????

So my issue is that, although I was expecting a lot of ease, I really had no way of knowing how much to expect. I relied on this useful blog post which explained that the amount of ease differed depending on how the pattern is described. My Vogue 1558, being described as “close fitting” should include around 0-2 inches of ease. Which was useful as a guideline but, let’s face it, there’s a big difference between 0 inches and 2 inches in sewing!

And I must say, I just don’t understand this use of excessive ease. Sure, you’re never going to end up with a garment that is too small for you sewing with this amount of ease. But, a garment which is crazily big for you is just as useless as a garment that is too small. And taking it in, isn’t always possible or worth the effort, depending on the pattern. I have definitely been in the situation where an initial oversized garment just looked so bad on me, that I decided it wasn’t worth the effort to try to modify and improve the fit.

Plus, even if you want to include a lot of ease, just include a finished garment measurement chart so your customers can make an informed decision. I have to say that this lack of finished garment measurements is almost a deal breaker for me, insofar as my interest in exploring Big 4 patterns more closely is concerned. I just don’t have time to be guessing with sizes. And seriously, if I had made the size 16 that the body measurement suggested to me, it would have been totally ridiculous.

v1558 by Rachel Comey Misses' Raglan Sleeve Waist pleated dress

Big 4 style

What else was different about finally sewing with the big 4?

Not a whole lot really.

The instructions were OK, although I didn’t really follow them closely. Of course, if you are new to sewing and you need to really learn how to sew the garment in question, these instructions won’t cut it but I didn’t find the instructions as horrible as I had been expecting.

The instructions for Vogue 1558 used some techniques which I had never heard of before such as “double-stitching” all seams. This isn’t widely used in the indie pattern world.
I also felt that there were less attempts made to ensure that the end garment was well-stabilised, compared to the construction methods in indie patterns. I am used to indie patterns using elastic to stabilise waistbands and shoulders in knits, whereas none of this was suggested. In addition, I also decided to add some knit interfacing around the zipper and at the neckline. It just seemed more secure that way.

The main thing though, that struck me as a bit different about this pattern, is that, well frankly, having sewn it, I have no idea why Vogue 1558 is a knit pattern, rather than a woven pattern. And I am wondering if this is a more general Big 4 tendency. You see, one time, I decided to explore buying some big 4 patterns. I spent ages on the Vogue website picking some out. In the end, the shipping cost added up and I never actually made the purchase. But while I was going through, picking and choosing, I was often surprised, when I looked at the fabric requirements, to see that a dress used a knit fabric. When to me, the cut and styling of the pattern tended to lend itself more to woven fabrics.

Does anyone know whether this is actually a thing. Do the big 4 tend to gravitate towards using knits? Perhaps because they are more forgiving in times of sizing (just like all that crazy ease)? Or perhaps their audience prioritises comfort?

In my opinion, this pattern, vogue 1558, would look out of this world in rayon. In a knit it works but it is really rather heavy. At the centre front, you have to attach layers of pleats at the bodice, to layers of pleats at the skirt. There were times I was literally sewing though 7-8 layers of fabric to attach the pleated sections. It broke my overlocker needle. It was ridiculously thick. I am also worried about whether the waist seam, with all its layers of pleating, will hold of well over time. But if you replaced knit fabric with some nice fine rayon or silk, I think Vogue 1558 would be out of this world…

v1558 by Rachel Comey Misses' Raglan Sleeve Waist pleated dress

Still, I don’t mean to complain too much. I actually really like this dress.

Vogue 1558: My modifications

As to my specific version, I made a few slight modifications, apart from tweaking the size. Vogue 1558 calls for the sleeve to be finished with elastic at the cuff.

Umm, no.

Just no.

Even on the pattern envelope, this just looks soooo cheap.

So I replaced the elastic with a cuff and then, to get my enormous sleeve down to size, I inserted a deep pleat down the outside edge of each sleeve. I really like it this way. I have to admit that the sleeves were initially the one thing I didn’t like about the pattern. My original aim was to replace the sleeves with a more skin-tight one. But when I saw the craze-shaped sleeve pattern piece I lost confidence in my ability to do this.

But I do love my cuffed and pleated alternative.

v1558 by Rachel Comey Misses' Raglan Sleeve Waist pleated dress

I also added pockets. And shortened the overall length by 14 cm – it felt a little less “Little House on The Prairie” this way. Next time around, I would also shorten the bodice too. It is a little too long, especially since it is likely to sag over time.

v1558 by Rachel Comey Misses' Raglan Sleeve Waist pleated dress

Overall this is a super pretty dress. It is sooo comfy to wear. I feel like it is a dress which just screams springtime and new beginnings. I happily wore it for a chocolate pig out on Easter Sunday! And I think that the print on this fabric is just a perfect companion to the pleats and design lines of Vogue 1558. So I am very happy with it, but it hasn’t left me desperately wanting to explore the Big 4 world. It is nice to have learnt a bit more about sewing big 4 in the future, which could help me for the day when I do suddenly see a big 4 pattern that I need to have. But for now, I remain steadfastly happy as a die hard indie pattern fan…

ADDENDUM (8 April 2018): After publication of this post a number of readers very usefully pointed out in the comments that Vogue patterns mark their finished garment measurements on the pattern pieces themselves. I totally hadn’t noticed this! So if you’re a big 4 newbie like me, you can find the finished garment measurements on the pieces – looking something like this:


Thanks so much sewcialists for filling in the gaps in my knowledge! This should make sewing Vogue patterns much easier in future. Hopefully, therefore, no more whinging about ease for me! (Although I still think it wouldn’t hurt to just put this info into a table!!)

 

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13 thoughts on “Vogue 1558: I finally sewed a Big 4 pattern!!

  1. Firstly, your dress looks really fab Beck. I like the contrasting fabric and the pattern lets you see the pleats well.
    As for sizing…I’m very surprised that the measurements aren’t written on the pattern. Every Vogue that I’ve ever made up has bust and hip measurements actually written on the pattern piece.
    Regarding sizing though. I always go by the ease charts and decide from them what size I want to make up. if I want less ease I size down. And finally, I always know my body measurements well and I measure the actual pattern pieces across the width to see what they measure and I trim off or add on accordingly.
    I recently made a Zandra Rhodes designer pattern and found the sizing to be spot on so I would say it really depends on the design of the garment itself. Welcome to the wonderful world of Vogue!

    1. Thanks Diane. I will check on the pattern piece when I get home – I was just looking on the envelope and the instruction booklet and didn’t find anything there. The adventures of trying something new means that the info you are looking for might be in unexpected places! And what is an “ease chart”? It’s good to know the sizing won’t always be an issue, I just wish I’d been able to easily identify the info I needed to make an informed choice. I didn’t feel that measuring the pattern pieces was practical here because the pleats made it hard to get an accurate idea. All I wanted was a chart 🙂 But its great to know this is not a universal experience!!

  2. Yup, ease … a recent pair of “slim fit” men’s pyjama trousers I made from a Vogue pattern would have been slim fit only on the Michelin Man.

    My early years in the 70s and 80s were full of hideous garments made according to the nominal pattern size by my mother and later by me on the basis that as a large and lumpy child/ teenager i should be grateful to have anything that I could fit into at all. If only I’d understood how to fix them at the time.

    Meanwhile your dress looks fab and I’m dead impressed that you saw the potential in a pattern whose illustration looks, as they say in knitting circles, as if it’s been made from clown barf. I like the contrast sleeves, they give it an air of “athleisure” as I believe the young people call it these days.

    1. Still, better late than never as far as learning how to fix in our clothes. I often regret not learning to sew earlier but at least I got there eventually! And the phrase “made of clown bard” just made my day! Watch, I’m going to steal it and incorporate into my everyday life just to spread the joy!!

      1. “Clown barf” is great isn’t it? One of the many gifts I’ve got from Ravelry in the past couple of years.

  3. I sew with Vogue quite a LOT and it’s funny but I’ve never stumbled into this issue with sizing – I’ve read about many others having that issue though! Your dress is LOVELY and I completely agree that it be beautiful in a flowy rayon (or better yet silk!). It’s another one of those patterns I wouldn’t have paid much mind until I see it on someone in their rendition – raglan sleeves are my favourite!

    1. Me too – I have a total love affair with raglan. And sooo easy to sew. On the pattern, I totally have to give my sister credit for having the foresight to see it could work. She got it for me for Christmas and I kind of sewed it as an act of faith cuz she has always been infinitely more stylish than me so I trust that if she picked it for me, it would work! Don’t think I would have even glanced at it otherwise!!

  4. I’ve sewn Vogue before and found the sizing pretty good, Simplicity and New Look tended to have way too much ease, but I think that has changed now. Vogue do normally print finished measurements on the front piece of the pattern for bust and hip; Burda do that too. I’m currently cutting out a coat in Burda’s range and having to size up going by the finished size as I want to be able to fit a jersey under it; a coat is useless if I can’t get woollies underneath!
    I agree with you on that dress, it would definitely work better with a woven fabric with a little drape to it.

    1. Thanks, I will definitely check the pieces. Would have made things so much easier if I had seen them!!! Yep, any future versions will definitely be in silk or rayon. Just perfect…

  5. love the dress and the contrasting sleeves are perfect. its always great seeing other peoples makes as sometimes the pattern envelope is totally uninspiring! I sew any pattern indy/my own drafts/ vintage/ contemporary big 4. My one comment for ease is that if you are sewing fabrics with stretch or spandex or elastine in them a lot of people question the need for ease – however, if you are sewing a dense woven linen – the ease makes more sense, and the drape of the fabric works better. I never see ease as a bother but do generally measure out the hip line on a pattern to make sure I dont have too much as some vintage patterns have a lot!

    1. Thanks, it’s been interesting seeing a few people point out that measuring the pattern pieces to check ease is a thing. Having used indie patterns almost all the time, I’d actually never thought of this since I had come to depend on the chart. Seems a bit of a pain for a pattern like thiscuz I would have to trace, then folder the pleats into my paper then measure then of its not right trace again, but it seems ill just have to get used to it! The contrasting sleeves are growing on me too – people seem to like them!!

  6. I’ve not seen any big four patterns yet, I’m at the stage of building my skills with indie patterns – but also realising that I like simple shapes and knits and that actually I could quite happily dress myself using the TNT patterns I have already. That’s not to say that I don’t have a queue but I always sew what I fancy right now this minute and don’t feel bad about not sticking to my queue – even if it means having more than one project unfinished – because this is an activity that I do for pleasure and there’s no sewing monitor in my house 🙂 I always finish things in the end!

    1. Cheers to no sewing monitors!! I love that you could dress yourself in TNTs already – sounds like the perfect way to make a wardrobe!

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